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		<title>Thoughts on Blogout &#8217;09</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chan Chi-Loong</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Social media is like teen sex. Everybody wants to do it. Nobody knows how. When it&#8217;s finally done there is surprise it&#8217;s not better&#8221; &#8211; Avinash Kaushik, analytics evangelist, Google An amusing anecdote that social media consultant Yongfook brought up during last week&#8217;s Blogout &#8217;09, but nonetheless very true. Run on 6th and 7th March [...]]]></description>
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<p><i>&#8220;Social media is like teen sex.<br />
Everybody wants to do it.<br />
Nobody knows how.<br />
When it&#8217;s finally done there is surprise it&#8217;s not better&#8221;<br />
&#8211; Avinash Kaushik, analytics evangelist, Google</i></p>
<p>An amusing anecdote that social media consultant <a href="http://yongfook.com/">Yongfook</a> brought up during last week&#8217;s Blogout &#8217;09, but nonetheless very true. </p>
<p>Run on 6th and 7th March (Friday and Saturday) last week, Blogout &#8217;09 was an event organized by Singapore&#8217;s  <a href="http://tdm.sg/events/blogout">TDM (The Digital Movement)</a> to help attendees &#8220;make sense of the social media space in Singapore&#8221;.</p>
<p>They brought together a bunch of digital media consultants like Yongfook, <a href="http://www.socializedpr.com/">Joel Postman</a> and Tania from Ogilvy to present to the largely government audience (at least on the 6th when I was there) on social media. Topics touched on include how to measure ROI, how to do outreach in this space and where social media is going in the future.</p>
<p>It was well-run and well-coordinated, so kudos to the TDM folks (e.g. <a href="http://claudia.sg/">Claudia</a>) for organizing a great event from a bottom-up grassroots effort.</p>
<p>Just adding my two cents to various topics that caught my interest throughout Friday 6th when I was there:<br />
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<li><b>On measuring social media ROI:</b> Yongfook mentioned looking at various business &#8220;needles&#8221; (e.g. authority, marketing/sales leads, etc.) to measure impact rather than using web metrics like page hits and number of visitors. Whilst I agree that these are effective measures, how these <i>metrics are formulated and pegged to business impact</i> is difficult to do (which is why it&#8217;s valuable!). I doubt you can get away from things like page hits and the like short term &#8212; even though they can be gamed &#8212; because it&#8217;s an objective metric that&#8217;s easy for the fledgling social media industry to measure and sell.</li>
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<li><b>On making money through blogs or paying blogs to blog:</b> Whilst there are individuals who probably are exceptional in this area, I&#8217;m not convinced that blogs are a vehicle for making money, especially not through ads. And in the Singapore context, this is even more difficult due to reasons like the limited advertising market. Here&#8217;s an<a href="http://www.straitstimes.com/vgn-ext-templating/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=b7f96e0b06cae110VgnVCM100000430a0a0aRCRD&#038;vgnextchannel=9864758920e39010VgnVCM1000000a35010aRCRD">article I wrote for Digital Life</a> two months back, in which SMU&#8217;s Michael Netzley explains why he believes it doesn&#8217;t work.
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<li><b>On blogger outreach:</b> Yes, reaching out to bloggers is about conversations. To do it well, you need to understand <i>why</i> bloggers blog. Is it about passion? Is it about fame and/or ego? Do they only want friends to read or are they aiming for a wider audience? Do they intend to make a living from building their own personal brand online? The thing is this: people blog for all kinds of different reasons, and there are millions of them out there. Pragmatically speaking, you can&#8217;t talk to ALL of them; you have to prioritize. How influential are these bloggers that you reach out to? Will they champion what you&#8217;re presenting to them? I really don&#8217;t think this is as an easy question to answer as many social media folks make it sound like. &#8220;Just have conversations loh&#8221; isn&#8217;t going to cut it, unless you explain in depth what this entails.</li>
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<li><b>Is social media outreach useful for B2B?</b> I&#8217;m not convinced of this myself. I think it&#8217;s far more useful for B2C than B2B. B2B is probably better served through other channels like industry relations or analysts relations, because it&#8217;s easier to see more direct business impact from these types of comms work. Maybe if you&#8217;re flush with cash and want to do a branding campaign social media could be included as a component for B2B, but to me there are better alternatives.
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